From the CCC, 2nd edition: 1783 Conscience must be informed and moral judgment enlightened. A well-formed conscience is upright and truthful. It formulates its judgments according to reason, in conformity with the true good willed by the wisdom of the Creator. The education of conscience is indispensible for human beings who are subjected to negative influences and tempted by sin to prefer their own judgment and to reject authoritative teachings. 1784 The education of the conscience is a lifelong task. From the earliest years, it awakens the child to the knowledge and practice of the interior law recognized by conscience. Prudent education teaches virute; it prevents or cures fear, selfishness and pride, resentment arising from guilt, and feelings of complacency, born of human weakness and faults. The education of the conscience guarantees freedom and engenders peace of heart. 1785 In the formation of conscience the Word of God is the light for our path, we must assimilate it in faith and prayer and put it into practice. We must also examine our conscience before the Lord's Cross. We are assisted by the gifts of the Holy Spirit, aided by the witness or advice of others and guided by the authoritative teaching of the Church.
Pax et Bonum
DouglasDill
I noted the dates of what you are siting and they all appear long after Martin took his stand that Scripture is where is conscience is bound. When you use Word of God, this since it is capitalized indicates Word being Logos which was in existence from the beginning which for God has no beginning. However I am not sure if what is being sited is referring to scripture, which is the inspired word of God and not the Word. For if it was the Word, then the Bible its self would be revered Holy and we would have Bible Worshipers. The Quran, as Muslims believe the words in the Quran are the actual words of God and this is one of the reasons it must not be translated in any way shape or form, as then it would no longer be God's actual words. Now that I digress all over the place.
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Not dates – paragraph numbers. Not arguing, just sharing some of what the catechism says about conscience. There are many more paragraphs than those copied above. Succninctly, yes we are to follow our conscience provided that we are also continuing to educate and develop our conscience.
DouglasDill
I was reviewing this again and did not see that it was from the Catechism of the Catholic Church. It was just sited as CCC and I did not realize what that stood for. Did not think it was an argument either. Martin was Catholic and considered himself so…until tossed out. 🙂 But as long as our conscience is in concord with the scriptures which are alive even today, our conscience continues to grow as we re-examine the scriptures taking into consideration as much as possible the original context. Realizing we do not fully understand this dead language and all of its nuances and some of the written came from oral put into written form, our conscience can grow and scripture can be a vital in interpreting scripture to our daily lives in this context.
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From the CCC, 2nd edition:
1783 Conscience must be informed and moral judgment enlightened. A well-formed conscience is upright and truthful. It formulates its judgments according to reason, in conformity with the true good willed by the wisdom of the Creator. The education of conscience is indispensible for human beings who are subjected to negative influences and tempted by sin to prefer their own judgment and to reject authoritative teachings.
1784 The education of the conscience is a lifelong task. From the earliest years, it awakens the child to the knowledge and practice of the interior law recognized by conscience. Prudent education teaches virute; it prevents or cures fear, selfishness and pride, resentment arising from guilt, and feelings of complacency, born of human weakness and faults. The education of the conscience guarantees freedom and engenders peace of heart.
1785 In the formation of conscience the Word of God is the light for our path, we must assimilate it in faith and prayer and put it into practice. We must also examine our conscience before the Lord's Cross. We are assisted by the gifts of the Holy Spirit, aided by the witness or advice of others and guided by the authoritative teaching of the Church.
Pax et Bonum
DouglasDill
I noted the dates of what you are siting and they all appear long after Martin took his stand that Scripture is where is conscience is bound. When you use Word of God, this since it is capitalized indicates Word being Logos which was in existence from the beginning which for God has no beginning. However I am not sure if what is being sited is referring to scripture, which is the inspired word of God and not the Word. For if it was the Word, then the Bible its self would be revered Holy and we would have Bible Worshipers. The Quran, as Muslims believe the words in the Quran are the actual words of God and this is one of the reasons it must not be translated in any way shape or form, as then it would no longer be God's actual words. Now that I digress all over the place.
3k
Not dates – paragraph numbers. Not arguing, just sharing some of what the catechism says about conscience. There are many more paragraphs than those copied above. Succninctly, yes we are to follow our conscience provided that we are also continuing to educate and develop our conscience.
DouglasDill
I was reviewing this again and did not see that it was from the Catechism of the Catholic Church. It was just sited as CCC and I did not realize what that stood for. Did not think it was an argument either. Martin was Catholic and considered himself so…until tossed out. 🙂 But as long as our conscience is in concord with the scriptures which are alive even today, our conscience continues to grow as we re-examine the scriptures taking into consideration as much as possible the original context. Realizing we do not fully understand this dead language and all of its nuances and some of the written came from oral put into written form, our conscience can grow and scripture can be a vital in interpreting scripture to our daily lives in this context.